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Post by syd gilmour on Feb 4, 2017 20:18:48 GMT
His use of sound effects, strange noises, alternative guitar style during luve performances and psychedelic lyricism not only laid the groundwork for Pink Floyd, but psychedelic music of the time and future.
Sean Lennon credits Syd as being one of the most infliential people in music, although Sean I do not like.
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Post by TheVelvetBride on Feb 4, 2017 22:11:16 GMT
Psychedelic music and lyrics were already in full swing in 1966, before Piper was even released.
The style's popularity was coming to an end after the Summer Of Love (1967) anyway.
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Post by syd gilmour on Feb 5, 2017 5:33:47 GMT
Syd is still a massive part of the footprint left by psychedelic music.
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Post by The Lunatic on Feb 8, 2017 1:45:59 GMT
Don't forget David Bowie.
I realise that my post above comes across as sounding rather cross. I didn't mean it that way.
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Post by The Lunatic on Mar 4, 2017 13:15:57 GMT
TheVelvetBride in re: David's guitar skills. Even if you think he sounds 'soulless' (entirely subjective), you can't deny that, objectively, his technique is fairly flawless, and I believe that an objective judgement of their technical musicianship was the original object of this thread. I may come across as pedantic. I probably am, somewhat, especially when it comes to the Floyd.
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Post by TheVelvetBride on Mar 5, 2017 0:13:53 GMT
TheVelvetBride in re: David's guitar skills. Even if you think he sounds 'soulless' (entirely subjective), you can't deny that, objectively, his technique is fairly flawless, and I believe that an objective judgement of their technical musicianship was the original object of this thread. I may come across as pedantic. I probably am, somewhat, especially when it comes to the Floyd. And here's where I slowly roast you over an open fire... Playing with feeling and emotion is a skill in technical musicianship. If it wasn't, music wouldn't communicate like it does. And, I never specified whether I was judging them objectivly or subjectly, that's your own presumption.
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Post by The Lunatic on Mar 5, 2017 2:30:56 GMT
Geez, Eve*, I never meant our little discussion to get to that. Don't eat me, please! I'll drop the subject now. We will agree to disagree. I'd suggest a handshake, but such a gesture is rendered meaningless on a Pink Floyd forum. *Old habits die hard
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Post by syd gilmour on Mar 5, 2017 5:00:10 GMT
Playing with feeling and emotion is a skill in technical musicianship. If it wasn't, music wouldn't communicate like it does. And, I never specified whether I was judging them objectivly or subjectly, that's your own presumption. The same critisism could be said about George Harrison. His solos were written and perfected before he went to put them on record, and he's got the most soul of them all. I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing to planning out solos, especially in the genre that Gilmour and Harrison played in. Blues players like SRV, BB King, or Clapton (just to name a select few) have greater gifts of improvisation, and can pack soul into their playing on that seems to flow directly out of their body. Perhaps it means they are better players, perhaps it doesn't. One thing I can say is as a guitarist and musician who plays with other guitarists, it is a lot more common for people to learn Gilmour and Harrisolos verbatim than almost any other player besides Hendrix.
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Post by TheVelvetBride on Mar 5, 2017 5:42:48 GMT
I know that George wrote his solos beforehand. I did acknowledge that he had soul. I didn't say, however, that planning things out to the minutest detail made things soulless.
My meaning by bolding my own point was that David is a technical genius per-say, but I don't think he can bring it in the feeling department.
I agree, it doesn't make you an inferior guitarist to plan solos out. But not being able to feel them does.
They (David and George) are easier to learn from because their solos are grounded in dictations of music. You can learn from them.
With improvisational guitarists, you can only draw inspiration from them (which can be just as important.)
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